Intelligent Debate? How would you have handled this?

August 31, 2012

I want to start off by saying, that I just want to know how you would have handled this, if you were the Original Poster.  This is a recent post to Facebook, and the ensuing debate.

Original Post:  It amazes me that people are still falling for the Republican versus Democrat rhetoric.  They are All the Same.  Why do we eat up the garbage and Lies that they feed us. The last few presidents have just been a continuation of their predecessor. Bush=Obama=Romney, Nothing will change by electing the establishment choices.  They ARE ALL BOUGHT and Paid for.  We don't need a president who thinks he's a King, cause we already have one, Jesus!  Wake up people, stop voting for SOCK Puppets in $10,000 suits throwing out Promises they never intend to keep!  It's all just Lies to con you into voting for the idiot the establishment wants us to choose!

Poster 1:  I agree none of the presidents since Kennedy have really done anything good.  They are figureheads like the queen

Poster 2:  They all have a lot of money, but this choice of Mitt, he IS one of the Wall St. Bunch who controls the economy. AND look at the mess America is in because a few want to keep getting more millions.

Poster 3:  Anybody is better than Obama

Original Poster:  No, anybody isn't better, It's the same choice.  Do you want Vanilla, or Vanilla? I don't like either one, and refuse to settle for the lesser of two evils!

Poster 4:  I agree for the most part, a republican, their speeches are alwAys about bring back good ole days & family values democrats expound hope & a move forwaord  BUT watch what you say about vanilla, I love vanilla ice cream!!!! LOL

Original Poster:  Well it doesn't really matter What they are saying during the election cycle, that's just to get the unquestioning voters to pile in and eat up their lies. They don't intend to keep 99% of those promises, so the jokes on whoever bought their BulllSnip!


Poster 5:  That is how Obama got into the White House to begin with, was only a hot or him running. I am voting Romney. Can he do the job? I really think its going to take years and a lot of reconstruction in the way we live But They need to leave the Old people out of the war on the budge and start giving school and college a look into with a hand up not hand out.

Poster 2:  If you havent noticed, Original Poster! The democrat ticket will be my choice. We cant go back to where Bush -Cheney had us.

Poster 5:  If you living off the government? You need to have to set in class or clean street or neighbors.

Poster 6:  That's why I don't vote it's all a scheme to make you feel like you have a choice.

Poster 2:  It does seem that way Poster 6.

Poster 5:  you could be right. I stayed out last time and we got the Anti-Christ in office

Original Poster:  The majority of people living off the government now, are only in that position because all our jobs got shipped to China and Korea. So if you think it's a wise choice to vote for the people that caused this go ahead.

Poster 4:  I disagree, yes its hard to feel like we make a difference in the major elections, thats why the grass roots are so important.....

Poster 5:  Yes Pray for the country.

Poster 2:  We the American people should not allow this LYING campaigning to go on. We should only elect candidates who tell the

truth. Its a mess this time around. Its been bad since all that mess in Florida about the recounting of the votes in 2000.

Poster 5:  Its like prayer in School, We don' t have vote on it

Poster 7:  AIN STREAM MEDIA IS THE REAL PROBLEM . THEY TWIST AND CONFUSE THE TRUTH. THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE TO B SMARTER THAN WHAT THIS LIBERAL MEDIA REPORTS! FIRST AND FOREMOST I BELIEVE OBAMA IS THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER ELECTED. SECOND , FACT HE ALO


Poster 7:  any AMERICAN WHO DOUBTS OR WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE REAL OBAMA.. GO SEE THE MOVIE DOCUMENTARY..2016.... ONLY THEN CAN U EVEN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THIS MAN ! I LEFT IN TEARS FOR OUR BEAUTIFUL AMERICA. OBAMA HAS SPENT AMERICA INTO MORE DEBT THAN *ANY* OTHER PRESIDENT. THIS IS A FACT... YES THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION SPENT TO MUCH BUT IT PALES TO COMPARE TO OBAMA . I THINK IT IS VERY SAD THE DAY AMERICANS BELIEVE ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD ! MITT ROMNEY IS A GODLY MAN. HE IS A PROVEN BUSINESS MAN. OBAMA IS AN ATTORNEY WITH FANCY WORDS MOVING US TO BIG GOVERMENT. UNDER HIS RULE WE WILL SURLEY RUN OUT OF MONEY AND ALL THE FOLKS THAT WAIT FOR GOVERMENT CKS WILL B UP A CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE. I PRAY GOD WILL OPEN THE EYES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AMEN

Poster 7:  @ Poster 2. you said back to Cheney and Bush? for real? like I said before, Bush spent to much however, remember about 5
months into his term THE TWIN TOWERS FELL ALMOST 3,000 AMERICANS DIED! ! THEN KATRINA WIPPED OUT NEW ORLEANS AND OTHER PLACES ALONG THE GULF COAST. THAT IS 2 MAJOR DISASTERS ALONE.. OBAMA HAS REFUSED THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE FROM CANADA THAT WOULD PUT AMERICANS BACK TO WORK! HE HAS INVESTED INTO A SOLAR POWER CALLED SOLYNDRA THAT WENT BELLY UP WITH HARD WORKING TAX PAYING AMERICANS MONEY ! HE RESCUED GM AND BACKED THE CHEVY VOLT THAT HAS ALSO FAILED ONCE AGAIN WITH TAX MONEY. SOMEBODY WILL HAVE TO PAY ALL THIS BACK ONE DAY. I WILL TAKE BUSH ANY DAY COMPARED TO OBAMA. GO SEE THE DOCUMENTARY 2016 YOU WILL LEAVE THE THEATER WELL INFORMED !

Poster 7:  @ Original Poster, if YOU CAN'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS OBAMA ADMIN. then you are badly informed. Z


Original Poster:  Not trying to start an argument on here, but I think you need to look at what each party has Actually done while in control, congress, senate, and the president. They all push the same policies, while lying out the side of their mouth, the whole time

Poster 7:  No that is NOT TRUE Original Poster. The Democrats had control the last year of the Bush admin. We have no choice the WAY OUR GOV. IS SET UP. WE DO HAVE A VOICE AND VOTE . ITS ALL WE CAN DO IS TRY. BUT TO ENCOURAGE AMERICANS TO THROW IN THE TOWEL SO PEOPLE LIKE OBAMA GET ELECTED IS UNAMERICAN. WE HAVE TO STAND FOR SOMETHING ! THATS MY POINT.

Original Poster:  I am not talking about the recent past. You need to go study some more history before you try to educate people.


Poster 7:  to answer your question: AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL IS THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD. thats pretty powerful NO OTHER COUNTRY HAVE THE LIFESTYLE WE HAVE. THE RIGHT TO SERVE GOD. ...YES I AM PROUD OF WHAT OUR COUNTRY STANDS FOR. and this is why i dislike Obama.

Original Poster:  I was proud of my country, when we were the leaders of the free world and leading in the right direction.  Sadly, that day has passed. Now we bomb innocent countries for no reason, based on lies. I don't support that, or anyone else that does.

Poster 7:  WE ARE THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD ! ! AL QUEDA AND OSAMA BIN LADIN ATTACKED AMERICA. THE JAPANESE BOMBED PEARL HARBOUR. AMERICA IS ALWAYS THE COUNTRY THAT HELPS OTHERS. YOU ARE BADLY INFORMED... WE NEVER BOMB INNOCENT COUNTRIES. NAME ONE..


Original Poster:  So you really think Iraq had something to do with 9/11? You are Badly Informed. Bush admitted he lied about the connections between Iraq and Al-Quieda and weapons of mass destruction. And now we are arming Al-Quieda to overthrow Syria's government. Kind of funny, we're supporting the terrorists that attacked us. LOL

Poster 7:  well thats Obama a democrat for you. which is why we NEED INTELLIGENCE IN OFFICE NOT AN INEXPERIENCED LIGHT WEIGHT. AS FAR AS BUSH AND THE IRAQ SITUATION WHAT WAS ADMITTED WAS BAD INTELLIGENCE. BUSH AS ANY PRESIDENT MAKES HIS DECISIONS BY WHAT HE IS TOLD. ALSO GETTING RID OF SADAM HUSSEIN AND HIS TWO SONS WAS WORTH IT. THESE HORRIBLE PEOPLE MURDERED THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. OBAMA USED PLANS AND CONTINUED THE BUSH ATTACT COURSE AND WE FINALLY GOT OSAMA BIN LADIN. WHICH BY THE WAY WAS THE MASTERMIND BEHIND THE ATTACK ON INNOCENT AMERICANS. SO U SEE I AM STATING FACTS BUT SADLY THERE WILL ALWAYS B PEOPLE THAT OVIOUSLY** JUST WILL NOT ACCEPT. BY THE WAY I HAVE OWNED AND OPERATED A BUSINESD CORP. FOR 30 + YEARS, SO U SEE I AM NO DUMMY. EVERYTHING I HAVE STATED ARE FACTS. SORRY U DONT GET IT.


Poster 7:  attack

Poster 7:  obviously

Poster 7:  touchy touch screen (new android) :-)

Original Poster:  We'll have to agree to disagree. I have laid of the fluoride for the most part, and avoided the government Kool-aid. Sorry to hear you believe whatever the main stream media and the government puts out in their Propaganda. If you would like to rewrite history, do it on someone who has no idea of what is going on. In the meantime look into some of the rhetoric you spew, before you spew it. And not to mention proper etiquette online, says you have been screaming at me. That is no way for an intelligent person to try to debate someone. If you think I am wrong, Prove Me Wrong. It shouldn't be that hard, if it's that obvious. Talking down to people on the internet will get you nowhere, just make enemies. In this day and age, intelligent people should be able to have an honorable debate about the Truth, you have just proven my point, by your own responses. Sad day.

I haven't edited this conversation, other than changing the names of the posters.


So, how would you have handled this?  Differently?  The same?

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

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